Posts by Open mind

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What happy, wonderful thing happened to you since you left the "truth"?

by Jeannette in

more than one thing for me, but i have learned to enjoy festivals, and just enjoying free time.

it's not that the org wouldn't allow it, i just felt i shouldn't.

there are others, of course, and i really have been happier and good things have come my way since i left.

Open mind

These have all been great to read, but,

PhilJonesIII: "Under water, no one can hear you cry."

That was simply beautiful. Thanks for sharing it here.

om

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A few verbatim quotes from Anthony Morris' talk during the Branch Visit.

by Open mind in

haven't contributed much here in a while.

it's not modest and it's certainly not sound of mind.

you be spiritual man enough to tell these young fellows 'you don't go out in the ministry looking like that.

Open mind

Hello,

Haven't contributed much here in a while. I took the time to listen to the YouTube video found here on page 20 of the thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/287116/20/Zone-Visit-An-Announcement-That-Will-Test-Your-Faith

Here's some summary and a bit of verbatim transcription.

(At 10:08)
"Have you ever visited Bethel?"

(Makes a comment re: how expensive it can be and would require planning.)

"If you haven't, my next question is, but have you been able to find a way to get a trip to a well-known amusement park?" (Long pause) "Explain that to God."

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(At 19:30) Comments on 23-year old non-MS were fairly rambly so I didn't try to get it verbatim.

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(At 23:47) Wild colored socks. He actually wasn't saying there's anything wrong with that. He said that sock color was a matter of taste, and that he thought some of these young brothers with brightly colored socks were demonstrating poor taste, but it wasn't immodest.

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(At approximately 26:00.)
"...what it is is this Spanx, this skin-tight stuff they wear. Now, are you sisters wearing this in the ministry? No. I can't say that I've ever seen that. But when they exercise, they leave their home and they're jogging in this stuff?

Look at the verse. Is that appropriate to wear skin-tight Spanx or whatever they call them? It's not modest and it's certainly not sound of mind. It's really inappropriate. There's nothing else to say about it. Now you want to be in your home or your room and wear that stuff, that's your business. But don't go out in public like that and say you worship the True God. 'I'm just trying to stay in shape'. (laughter) Inappropriate."

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(tight pants on the young brothers who the worldly gay designers are drooling over at 27:35)

"...and the other one that needs addressing is for these young fellows, cause the older ones aren't doing much of it, thankfully, uhhh, it's the metrosexual look. We've addressed that in the past, we've said things about it, but what's happened now has really caught on more.

Now the metrosexual look, that's the tight suit jacket and the tight pants, better known as 'tight pants'. (laughter) And, uh, they are tight, I mean tight all the way down to the ankles. And, that is not modest brothers. No. It's not appropriate. It's not sound of mind.

And I was proud of one Circuit Overseer who told me this past summer at one of the Intl. Conventions, 'cuz he brought it up, one of these fellows, he shows up for his Circuit Overseer's visit and wants to go out in the ministry work with him, door-to-door, he's wearing 'tight pants'. And the Circuit Overseer was man enough, spiritual man enough to say, 'No. I'm not going door-to-door with you. Not with that dress on. Inappropriate.'

So a lot to think about and you elders out there listening in, and be kind now, we always want to try to imitate Christ Jesus. You be spiritual man enough to tell these young fellows 'You don't go out in the ministry looking like that. Not in this organization.'
And frankly I have asked sister after sister, 'You know, what do you think of this? Do you find that appealing, attractive? You know, I'm just curious, 'cause I'm not a woman. Ahhh.' (laughter) And you know what, I've not found one yet that thought they look good. (Garbled, poor audio quality for a couple seconds.)

And this is a fact, the homosexuals that are designing these clothes, they like you in tight pants. (Huge laughter, pandering to JW homophobia) Not, spiritual people. So, it's something to consider for Christian grooming. Is it appropriate? Is it modest? Does it display soundness of mind? If not, do something about it."

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Hope this saves a few people the trouble of actually listening to this treacle.

om

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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Open mind

Marking to check out video on Page 20 when I have a faster connection.

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I am sooo screwed

by Yondaime in

so last night i was talking to my sister about how i admired president obama's speech to the u.n that happened earlier that day.. i then compared the extremism of isis to how much of a fanatic my jw bil is.. at the end of the statement , my mom walked in to the kitchen.

she was standing in the living room and she heard everything i said.. she called the elders that night to tell them what i said so they can counsel me.. i'm going to meet with them after the meeting on sunday!.

what do i do?!!!!!.

Open mind

Marking for great links posted by jgnat.

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Well, IT HAS BEGUN. See the future of the WTBTS in print.

by DATA-DOG in

i hate to read the wt, but i skimmed the july 15 study edition.

i found many examples of propaganda, of course, but a couple things really stood out.

1) the future of the preaching work.

Open mind

I'm pretty sure most Kingdom Halls in the U.S. have already been arm-twisted into getting high speed internet and making the whole KH a wi-fi hotspot.

Can't cite a letter to BOE, but I'm pretty sure I saw it somewhere on here a year or two ago.

om

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2014 New Release stuff you might want!

by Atlantis in

atlantis just rolled this stuff off the scanner and is eating right now, so i wanted to see if anybody wanted this junk.. 2014, what is the kingdom of god?

(tract).

https://www.sendspace.com/file/m3y1tg .

Open mind

marked

Thanks!

om

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If you thought Tony Moris the Third was extreme, wait till you hear this other GB member!

by Island Man in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba&list=uus0vqkpnsxult0gsz6ahpta.

Open mind

marked

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Do You Give Personal Information About Yourself On This Site?

by minimus in

jw
friends

if someone asked you for information regarding your identity, would you tell them?

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Open mind

I've contacted quite a few through PMs. If their posting history looks like they're probably not an axe murderer I'll reach out.

om

60

Me and my brother.

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

an earlier discussion has been highlighting the differences between da'ing and df'ing.

xena said:i am sorry qadreena but i have never in the 20 some odd years i have been a jw ever heard of an unbaptised publisher being d/aed...marked as bad association yes..but d/a...no...but i guess stranger things can happen.... well that brought it all back.. actually xena the exact same thing happened to my brother in the early 80's.

he was only 14. he'd carried on associating with a friend of his who'd been disfellowshipped.

Open mind

One of the best JWN/JWD threads of all time, IMO.

Here's to happiness!

om

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2014 International Convention East Rutherford AUDIO

by wannabefree in

for those who are interested, i have intercepted an audio transmission of the ic in east rutherford, nj from russell's celestial teapot.

these are zipped files of mp3 audio of each day, they are broken down into individual talks for your convenience.. friday https://www.sendspace.com/file/dgyeer.

saturday https://www.sendspace.com/file/a6p6my.

Open mind

Nosy, guilt-mongering JW relatives (NGMJWR): "So OM, how was your RC?"

OM: "We didn't go. Had to work."

NGMJWR: "So are you going to attend a different weekend?"

OM: "Probably not. We'll just get the audio online somewhere."

Thanks wannabefree!!!

om